your journal bests all the reviews i've read!
really!
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JCar0801 |
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thank you very much indeed, Je Laime!
your journal bests all the reviews i've read! really! |
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So far it's been very entertaining, Mr. G! Keep it going ... I can't wait to hear more!
Ms. Cal, I believe you have an excellent point about Natalie's reinterpretation of Nina. It is very likely that many of the theater reviewers have seen other productions of The Seagull and held firm expectations coming into the evening. That may well have contributed to some of the negative reviews Natalie received for her performance. Nevertheless, I do recall a Time magazine review of Anne Frank a number of years ago which also criticized (mildly) Natalie's flat delivery of some of her dialogue. She received the same criticism for her performance in SW E1. Natalie's director in ABH recalled times when he found it difficult to get Natalie to deliver the type of performance he desired. He described her acting style as "cerebral" which I interpreted to mean sedate and reserved. Natalie is a very private person from what we have read, and perhaps some of that is reflected in her acting style ... for better or for worse. Anyway, thanks to both of you and keep the reports coming in! Bluejay |
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floothe |
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That was a wonderful character and setting elaboration Cal!!!!
It adds more story to the story I know. Life is so strange in all time periods. How do you think women and men understand the play differently? looking forward to your review! floothe "As a boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But today I say we must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards and always twirling, twirling, TWIRLING TOWARDS FREEDOM!'-Kang or Kodos
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Cal |
Re: Got 'Gull? My New York, Natalie-sponsored journal. | ||
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Hi Bluejay -- that's just it, I don't think anybody who attended the play would say Natalie had a flat delivery in any of her lines or scenes (except for purposely when Nina was acting in the serious play by Konstantin). I don't think any of the reviewers said that either. The one review said her voice did not change from the first act to the last, but didn't say it was flat, said it was bubbly. She was all over the place with her voice. I will talk a great deal about Natalie's fine voice when I write my review.
Everybody knows that the Queen Amidala voice was meant to sound monotone. And I think the ABH director was talking about something different when he said that about her being cerebral and disciplined, that it was more difficult for her to play angry at her mother than sad. I think it is hard to relate to some of those reviews if you haven't actually seen the play, because you wouldn't even know what the scene looked like, how it went. The Village Voice review is actually pretty positive, says she physically made the change from Act I to Act IV, even if her voice didn't. I think some of the reviewers missed a great performance by Natalie because they were looking for something else. Maybe it will be on film, with close ups of Natalie's face? Then all could see. Cal |
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Chapter 8: Frog Porn. | ||
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Unfortunately, this was to be the last night I would see Cal, as she had decided to spend yet another night on line and catch the last possible performance before she flew back on Monday. I had already decided at this point that I would take the day off and do so more catching up on sleeping and resting, getting used to my surroundings and do some unpacking. It was a nice day to unwind, and then I would have Sunday night and all day Monday to relax as well. Nothing much in terms of events happened. On Monday I decided to go see Baise-moi (a/k/a Fuck Me) which was some pornographic French movie. It was pretty terrible! I got up a little later than I wanted to, checked the paper and decided that the 3.45 showing at the Cinema Village theaters would be the best choice. I rode the subway out to Manhattan, and when I had left, it was completely sunny. Upon my arrival, it was drizzling slightly, and as I made my way up the five or six blocks I had to go, it started pouring! The floodgates had been opened. At first I stood under the arch over the line of buildings I was at, but the wind was blowing it all around. Naturally, I didnt have a jacketwhat for, it was freakin hot 30-minutes earlierand even though my gut instinct had said to bring an umbrella, I didnt. Piece by piece I tried making my way to 4th Ave. where the theater was located, and in the interim became completely, okay, well, maybe 75-percent drenched. I mean, the part of my pants that my shirt covered and my underwear were still dry, but everything else was saturated. At least with the clothes I was wearing it didnt look like I was wet aside from my face and hair. I bought my ticket, dried off, and was unthrilled by the movie. But, at least its another one I can add to the list as having seen, and chances are I would have never seen it in San Diego.
By the time it was over, it was still cloudy outside, but it had stopped raining. I made it back home without a problem. For once the hot subway air felt nice. (Not the subway cars themselves, but underground its stifling!) And I hadnt wasted too much on Baise-moi, Cinema Village had a student discount for $7 as opposed to $9. I had dinner, kicked around the place until about 10.30 pm, took my backpack and gigantic blanket and was off to Central Park to wait in line for tickets, for the first time alone. How can I ignore/ This is sex without touching/ I'm going to explore/ I'm only into this to/ Enjoy.
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Hey what a great story...could you scan those press photos of Natalie? What all does the presskit talk about? Thanks!!!
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The Long Journey to the Seagull | ||
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The Long Journey to the Seagull
When I set out at 4:30am for the five hour drive to the Denver airport, I never thought I'd be staying up all night trying to get tickets for the play. My plan was to get to the theater before 8pm and score some of those choice return tickets that Willie at np2k said would be awaiting me, and cruise on into the show in a VIP seat. Of course my flight was two hours delayed (we all sat on the runway together forever with a bratty kid screaming at the top of his lungs) and I didn't get in to LaGaurdia until 8:30pm. After the long M60 bus ride (where I spied the Sister Amidala's Hair Braiding shop in Harlem) I checked in at Amsterdam and 103rd, then walked the short twenty blocks or so to the Delacorte -- arriving close to 11pm, just in time to hear Natalie's voice over the sound system. I could tell it was the final scene so I covered my ears (la la la) and headed to the line. There were already dozens of people in line, lounging on the hillside under the trees. I was really glad I got there early enough -- I would definitely get tickets at number 45. I added my name to the end of a list, and tried to add Greg's name but was told he had to be there to have his name down -- "No holding a space for somebody who will arrive later!!" a person yelled the rule at me. Sheesh. I waited until that uptight person left and added Greg's name anyway. I met Cathy, a New Yorker who reminded me of Liza Minelli (sp?) and she provided many minute details of her life and love of the theater. She travels to plays in London even. She had tried to get tickets a few nights before but didn't show up until 3:30am. The guy in front of her got the last voucher! She was out of luck and depressed, but still she fought on! A little before 1am the line moved out to the sidewalk at Central Park West. I detected the distinct odor of urine on the sidewalk, next to the wall. The street was incredibly noisy with buses, constant traffic, horns, sirens, loud people, and bright street lights. I kept an eye out for Greg and floothe. Whenever a thin, odd-looking tall person would walk by I'd ask, "floothe??" and got all sorts of responses, mostly confusion. One guy said, "Did you ask something about my toothe?" Then I saw a fellow who might be Greg, he walked to the end of the line then back up. "Greg??" Yes, it was him. Yay!! He brought all his press packets with photos from Natalie movie screenings. Pretty cool. We all tried to get a little sleep, but it was hot, noisy, and uncomfortable on the uneven cobblestone sidewalk (plus there was the smell of pee). Everybody tried to sleep anyway they could -- in lawn chairs, on blankets on the ground, on benches. I was lucky. I brought a thin foam pad, poncho/tarp, and a blanket for a pillow. I took a picture of Greg laying face down on the sidewalk. Awww. A little before 6am NYC police officer Fox guided the orderly line back to the Delacorte area. Now was the time for some sleep -- no real grass, but the dirt was softer than the cement and I couldn't smell anything too stinky. Later in the morning Greg and I went out for food and coffee -- many shops were nearby, and we passed the "Hayden House" hotel. The morning seemed to drag on for ever and it was getting hot (100 degrees), but we were in the shade under big oak trees, so it was not bad at all, except for being bombed by squirrels dropping the occasional acorn. Delacorte intern Kathleen made regular rounds up and down the line, explaining in a loud, monotone voice, about "cutting in line" and other rules. Some people made mean comments about her, but I was glad she was there keeping everything organized. Finally a bit before 1pm we packed up and formed a single file line. Everybody was happy, relieved that the wait was over. We were warned that people would try to cut in line so to be alert. Success! Greg and I got two tickets each and agreed to meet later that night. Greg went back to Brooklyn and I went to the Marc Chagall exhibit at the Jewish Museum, which I thoroughly enjoyed. I was pretty tired after my long journey, but didn't have time for a nap at the hostel. But it felt great to finally take a shower after being on the sidewalk and dirt. I walked back towards the park, had some sushi and edamame at a place on Amsterdam, and arrived at the Delacorte around 7pm. I could see no clear evidence of the free return ticket scam, and only saw one scalper. There was a long line for people with vouchers and an even longer line for standby. I met up with Greg again and we tried to guess which pair of tickets were the better seats. We went in and found each set of seats, made a decision, and then I went back out and passed on the other tickets to some people in the standby line. We took our seats in anticipation (and exhaustion -- I was suddenly very tired). With ever building excitement, we waited for the play to begin. Cal |
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Welcome nat1over!!!!
What days did you guys see the play? I'm curious as to by how many days we missed each other. I arrived in NYC sunday night(the 5th) and saw the play tuesday(7th) and then I left NYC for Boston on thursday morning(9th). Great story Cal!!!! Short 12 blocks to Central Park?? Maybe our definitions of blocks are different. mostly confusion. One guy said, "Did you ask something about my toothe?"-Cal , except for being bombed by squirrels dropping the occasional acorn. -Cal Delacorte intern Kathleen-Cal I thought she was really nice. I asked her if I could leave the park to go eat. Those people you gave the tickets to must have been ecstatic!!!!! I bet they love you!! Coolio. looking forward to the next!! floothe "As a boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But today I say we must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards and always twirling, twirling, TWIRLING TOWARDS FREEDOM!'-Kang or Kodos
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THANKS Cal :) | ||
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remember my "I'M WITH CAL" post?
it was my 2nd post on this board. pub3.ezboard.com/fbase37s...66&stop=66 oh nevermind, just know that i really appreciate your posts and can't wait to read more!! thanks!! |
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floothe -- I saw the show the 9, 10, 11, and got rained out on the 12th. We missed each other by a day or so, but I felt your glorious presence. On Sat there was a fellow playing a classical guitar, but it was not you. I guess the city blocks do not seem that long to me, but I walk and run a lot in life. And I meant to say twenty blocks (not twelve -- 103rd to 81st) which is about one mile, I figured.
Yes, JC, I've been reading your posts and especially all the pro reviews you have been so graciously providing on this and other boards -- so thank you. Also noticed you are helping me out on the uncensored board. Keep up the good work, guys! Cal |
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Finally my review of the Seagull | ||
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I was fortunate (well, not really fortune -- I spent four nights in line) to see the play three times, Aug 9 through 11, and got rained out on the final night (Aug 12). I saw the show before the reviews were published, so things could be different now. As you all know, the show received mixed reviews (one paper called it a "turkey"). I really loved the show and seeing some of my all-time favorite actors perform together live was a dream come true.
Natalie received mixed to favorable and rave reviews for her overall performance, but her rendition of the final scene was basically torn down and trampled on by quite a few theater critics. One critic gave her credit, saying she "refreshingly" played the part of Nina as a "flinty survivor" rather than a "pathetic victim." Some of the negative comments were unnecessarily harsh, one fellow dismissed her acting as "amateurish." Ouch. Apparently young Natalie was stung by the criticism, and may have lost some confidence in her ability to play the role since the reviews (hopefully not a permanent setback). According to Greg, after the reviews Natalie was very self-conscious on stage and on np2k Chad Peter found her performance to be a bit lackluster and lacking in intensity. Let's all project positive vibes that Natalie will heal her wounds and regain her confidence, to once again pour her heart out and give us the youthful intensity and raw emotion that made her so wonderful when I saw the play. And Greg will continue to see the play and continue to report back to us here at home. Okay? The Review: The Seagull -- Delacorte Theater, Central Park, NYC Since I saw the play on three nights, I'll sort of compile my impressions into one big review. Greg (a great, visually transporting writer, I must say) provided all the wonderful details about the theater and the production itself, the staging and directing, so I won't repeat it. I thought it was a wonderful production overall, loved the outdoor setting, and any shortcomings were not enough to complain about (except for the rain). The entire cast seemed to understand the subtleties of the story and seemed to be thrilled to work together. The Stoppard adaptation was full of humour, and the more modern feel of the language and pacing worked for the most part. The biggest problem for me was in not being able to see the actors faces close up (I had binoculars, but it is not the same as film/video with the slow motion and rewind buttons), and having the actors stand with their backs to the audience at crucial dramatic moments drove me crazy. If a person is seated too far on the right side of the theater, Natalie's back is turned practically throughout the entire final scene! No clear view of Natalie's great facial expressions! I'll give some overviews of the performances, then tell even more about Natalie's performance again later. If I had to rate the main performances in descending order (of the ones that I enjoyed the most, not best to worst) I would say Streep, Portman, Hoffman, and Kline. The other parts were quite small but done well, especially by John Goodman and Larry Pine. Marcia Gay Harden and Debra Monk were great, too. Christopher Walken was great as himself, but unbelievable as Sorin, an elderly invalid -- Walken was comic, with a NY accent, and he even danced a few jigs (when he wasn't confined to a wheelchair or hunched over using a cane). People seemed to accept this discrepancy with no problem and he stole the scenes he was in -- people clapped and laughed out loud at whatever Walken said and did. The show definintely belongs to Meryl Streep, and I got the feeling that the production was purposely centered around her character more than Konstantin or Nina, which is different for the Seagull. She deserves only praise for her terrific acting in my opinion. Every Arkadina scene revolved around Streep and she was perfect, spectacular, hilarious. Her Arkadina is a true drama queen, and not always likeable, especially with how she treats her son Konstantin -- teasing, tormenting, embarrassing, not knowing how to help him but wanting him to be strong on his own without her mothering or money. I was expecting great acting from Streep and was even more thrilled when I saw how she played the part. Natalie Portman has the most complex/difficult role as Nina, and the part is usually played by more experienced stage actresses in their 30's. What a treat to see somebody the actual age of the character take on this daunting role. Natalie really gave her heart to the part -- all raw emotion and unrestrained energy. So intense in parts that her bounding, whirling physicality and possessed laughter overpowered the rather sedate atmosphere (not bad, but it stood out). She used a strong, full, mature, elegant, and sonorous stage voice, which I was not expecting from somebody so young. In the first three acts, Natalie gives us a Nina that seems innocent and inexperienced on the surface, but at times she projects an underlying scheming and lustiness for men that erases the charm and innocence. For me (I think I am biased being a female), Nina was not that likeable of a person, because she seemed the type that gets everything handed to her based on her looks and sexual charms. The other female characters (especailly Arkadina) regarded her as a threat -- a pretty young eager predator out to gobble up their men. The men were seduced by her charms and innocence. Natalie was great at portraying these layers -- at being a girl who is aware of her sexual power over men but too young and inexperienced to really know or want the consequences that will come. Natalie's Nina was bubbly, romping and skipping, whirling and teasing, part awkward girlishness, part elegant woman. And Natalie is a very beautiful being to gaze at. The final act is the big acting test, and I felt Natalie lived up to the challenge, although she played the scene differently than usual, without hysteria or mental breakdowns. The entire act is somber and bleak, which had a lot to do with the lighting and atmosphere. Nina returns to talk to Kostya after two years and has experienced many hardships -- poverty, hunger, loss of a child, being used and dumped by Trigorin. Floothe gives a lovely description of how Natalie played the scene as "someone who had been through a great deal, but ready to go on. Slightly nostalgic with mental lapses going on in her desire not to be the Seagull. She seemed to be ignoring, avoiding, unaware of the torch Kostya still carried for her." Exactly. I'll elaborate much more, later, and give specifics of Natalie's touching and very mature performance. Philip Seymour Hoffman made for a good Konstantin (Kostya), although I found his character to be rather miserable and pathetic the first night. I think he was affected by the heat as he was out of breath, sweating profusely, and delivering his lines in a very choppy, sped up fashion. He seemed to tone the whining down the following nights and it worked better for me. I could believe his heartache over slowly losing his love, Nina, before his very eyes, but I was not too sympathetic for his complaints at being an underappreciated and misunderstood artist. I still have trouble finding what Nina would see in Kostya, both in reading the play and in watching the play -- he is so "high maintenance" as they say! Maybe Nina is just looking for a ticket out of town and Kostya had that potential until the successful Trigorin came along. Kevin Kline creates a very understated Trigorin, and I admit I was hoping for more fireworks and intensity. I did note immediately that he has a nice, tight butt. Kline was quite good at portraying Trigorin's lack of moral responsibility, his disregard for others while pursuing his desires, his rather cynical but non-chalant view of being a writer. He seemed to regard Nina as more of a curiosity and conquest than a woman, as an idea for a story rather than a real person. Because of all the movie stars on the stage, I often found it difficult to focus as the story unfolded. Perhaps that was the biggest shortcoming to me. I had so many preconceived ideas about the actors -- they each came with so much cinematic baggage, that I had trouble believing they were the characters in this Chekhov play. And I was so tired the first night that watching the play was a bit anti-climactic, and I was left with a feeling of wanting more from all the actors. Fortunately, I got right back in line after the show, and after seeing it more and more, I really started to love the play and all the characters more and more. Overall the play was wonderful, with some really great dramatic moments -- touching, hilarious, powerful -- with great acting throughout. I wish I could tell it all scene by scene, so that you all could go there with me. Alas, I do not have the time. I will however, reveal more juicy bits about Natalie's performance in my next Seagull review, and I will try to address any specific questions that anyone might have. Cal |
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Wow. 3 times. Envious I am.
Wow!! I am honored you felt my presence. I decided to plant it firmly in Manhattan and surrounding area. Especially Long Island. I had a great view where I stayed(32nd floor). About the whole critic thing-I think there should be critics of critics.(I don't really think that there should be, I just thought it was a humorous concept). Critics that would write:"So-and-so's review of The Sea Gull was sub-par and brought to mind memories of The Great Depression. I had to take the(whatever paper dissed Natalie) and recycle it somewhere because it was causing the foundation of my house to sink. Ok I'm done venting. Thank you. . Let's all project positive vibes that Natalie will heal her wounds and regain her confidence, to once again pour her heart out and give us the youthful intensity and raw emotion that made her so wonderful when I saw the play.-Cal Done and done. AAHHH!!! You used the word sonorous!!!!!! I love that word. Fantastic review Cal!!!!!!!!!! I did note immediately that he has a nice, tight butt.-Cal Yeah. Very excellent review Cal!! You are adding more details and viewpoints to my knowledge of the characters and how they are and why they do what they do. Thanks!! I am honored you quoted me! floothe "As a boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But today I say we must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards and always twirling, twirling, TWIRLING TOWARDS FREEDOM!'-Kang or Kodos
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Cal wrote:
"I saw the show the 9, 10, 11, and got rained out on the 12th" if memory serves, i recall reading that those days were pretty darn hot and humid in NYC. yowza, it's a great credit to your tenacity that you lined up for 4 days in a row!!!! thank you very much indeed for your uplifting review!! JC p.s.: cheers to floothe :) |
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Grand Master JayBoogie |
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Yes, good takes ppl.
~Peace
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floothe |
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I agree I don't know if I could've handled enduring that 4 times in a row(the play-yes, the heat and wait-no).
Stamina!! woohoo! floothe p.s. night court to JC JC I raise my glass to you. thanks for getting us all the latest news!! "As a boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But today I say we must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards and always twirling, twirling, TWIRLING TOWARDS FREEDOM!'-Kang or Kodos
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Spotlight on Natalie Portman | ||
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First -- Thanks for the kind words, floothe and JC. Yes, we need critics of critics -- that was funny about the depressing review causing the foundation of the house to sink, floothe. And JC, it was hot and humid on the first couple of days, during the heat wave, but the afternoon rains brought cooler temps later in the week. It wasn't too bad, especially with the shade and all the shops with cold drinks nearby. I camp out alot in adverse conditions for my job, so it was a pleasant day in the park in comparison to some of my experiences.
Report: Spotlight on Natalie/Nina Since Natalie's performance was pretty much ignored in the published reviews (beyond a 1 to 2 sentence assessment), I thought I'd give a more detailed description of the highlights. I think Natalie did an excellent job in the play and should get credit for all of the terrific scenes she gave us. Her part had a lot of variety and the character developed over time, and I can't think of any other young actress who could do as well. I really enjoyed watching Natalie do her thing. **** CONTAINS SPOILERS **** The Seagull unfolds outdoors near a house on a lake, slowly and somberly amidst the themes of unrequited love and unhappiness with life. Tortured, lovesick, misunderstood writer Konstantin (Kostya) is putting on his new play for guests at his family's estate. Kostya and his sickly uncle Sorin are awaiting the going-on-late arrival of Nina (Natalie's character), an aspiring actress and neighbor who will star in the play. We hear the sound of a horse galloping, my heart catches in my throat, and then Natalie makes her truly spectacular entrance. Nina rides in on a horse, jumps down, then runs and jumps excitedly into Kostya's arms, and they kiss. Natalie's intense presence immediately energizes the atmosphere and the audience perks up (the play started out very sedately). Nina is out of breath, panting, worried about being late. Natalie speaks in a strong, lively, melodious voice and you can't help but take notice. Did that voice come out of that petite, gorgeous girl?? The entire mood of the scene changes simply on the power of Natalie's commanding voice. Nina tells the men, excited and laughing, about urging on her horse with, "Come on! Come on! Come on!" I'll always remember her saying those words. Natalie's energy and zeal really seemed to have a positive effect on the other actors -- they were beaming. Nina changes out of her riding clothes, then into undergarments, and then into a loose smock for the play. Nina tells Kostya that his play is not very interesting because it doesn't have any real people and is only lines with no action. After Streep (and Kline) makes her super entrance (to audible cries, gasps, and applause on opening night -- what presence!!) we are all treated to Nina performing in the play within a play. The play is not very interesting -- it is only recited lines. It seems bound to be a failure. Natalie is hilarious in this scene and has the audience laughing out loud. The play is a symbolist play with a dark theme about the future and certain words are repeated for effect. Nina has the emotion and gestures of an animatron, and the lines are delivered in an earnest and intense monotone with no emotion and an off beat cadence. Her face is all seriousiness as she repeats the words, "Terrible...it is terrible....terrible" and "cold... cold ....cold" and "horror....horror....horror..." to mucho laughter from the audience. It's a funny scene and Natalie does it perfectly. The scene with the dead seagull is more serious and it marks the end of Nina and Kostya and the beginning of Nina and Trigorin. Kostya shoots a Seagull, drops it at Nina's feet, and says he shot it just like he is going to shoot himself. Nina is confused, bends down to the seagull, and remarks about how difficult their relationship has become due to his moodiness. Kostya lets Nina know that he knows she is no longer his, that she has fallen for Trigorin. Greg, these lines can't be repeated enough: "The sun's rays have not yet kissed you but you're already smiling - your glance melted in their warmth. Well, let me not stand between you and the sun." Yes, euripides trousers, if you are seated in Sec D and above, you get a clear and lengthy view down Natalie's dress when she bends down to lift the dead bird. She is wearing a corset or bustier that lifts and supports, not-too flouncy of undergarments, a white dress with lace, and little high-heeled boots. Natalie is petite, with a narrow body and looks to be about 5'2" or so. And with that corset she looks to have just a 14 inch waist! She seemed not to be wearing a bustle yet she filled out the dress nicely in the back. Her hair was softly back in a long braid. After Kostya leaves and Trigorin arrives, Nina sets out to snare Trigorin. Trigorin and Arkadina are planning to leave back to Moscow, and it may be the last time he ever sees Nina. Natalie is very good here, at walking the line between eager, impressionable, and inexperienced girl and conniving seductress who is aware of the effect that her untouched sexuality has on men, but has never experienced that effect. Natalie puts a lot of frisky physical action into her part in the first three Acts, frolicking about, laughing and spinning, and it really works here. Nina looks on with adoration as Trigorin tells all about what it is like to be a famous writer and creative genius. Nina gets all worked up over the prospect of fame and goes skipping and romping across the room with the words, "I would demand fame -- real resounding fame! Oh! my heads whirling..." And Nina goes dizzily whirling around, and careens into Trigorin's chest. Ooooppps!! They nearly embrace, but she backs away, teasing, just as we hear Arkadina's voice calling to Trigorin. The tension is broken and Trigorin tells Nina he does not want to leave her. He sees the dead seagull and Nina explains that Kostya shot it. He makes some notes, Nina asks about the notes and Trigorn tells her the idea for story -- her story. "A young girl, like you, brought up on the shores of a lake. She loves the lake like a seagull and is happy and free just like a seagull. Then a man happens to come along, sees her, and having nothing much to do, destroys her, like this seagull." Then Arkadina shows up and tells Tirgorin they are not leaving afterall. Nina and Trigorin stand close to each other, breathing and staring, ever so slightly being pulled towards each other. Trigorn slowly reaches out and puts his hat on her head, then exits the room. Nina turns around once and then falls back into the hammock and says "It's.... a..... dream!" Curtain. This building sexual tension eventually leads to the zinger of a kiss with Natalie and Kevin Kline. But to set it up, the action is a week later. Kostya had tried to kill himself and failed, but was recovering so that Arkadina and Trigorin were returning to Moscow. Nina gives Trigorin a gift to remember her by, a medallion with a passage from one of Trigorin's own books inscribed on the back: "If you ever have need of my life, come take it." Hmm Hmmm Hhmmm. This girl Nina is really getting under his skin. He has got to have her. Once again, Arkadina breaks up the two. Nina runs from the room, entreating Trigorin to just give her "two minutes" before he leaves. Arkadina realizes Trigorin has fallen for the young wannabe actress. She could see it coming and she wants to keep her man. Here Streep has a great scene, lot's of passion and drama. Trigorin has the insensitivity to ask Arkadina to let him stay a bit longer at the lake so he can pursue Nina -- he is in love with her and needs her. Arkadina uses her sexaulity to entice Trigorin into leaving with her. They end up rolling around on the ground, kissing, lot's of emotion from both actors. Then she straddles him and says, "Alright. You can stay." So she wins and he decides to go back with her, that they will be together. To me this scene was not all that convincing, especially the first night. The acting was good, but there wasn't a real chemistry going on and it seemed forced. But Portman and Kline did have some charged chemistry. Just before leaving, Trigorin goes to meet Nina for two minutes. She tells him that they will soon be together because she is going to Moscow too. She is giving up everything and has decided for a life on the stage. Trigorin gives her an address for where to stay in Moscow. He walks towards her, bends to look into her face, puts a hand on her chin and says, "You're so beautiful. It makes me so happy knowing we'll soon be seeing each other....that I can look into those wonderful eyes - that inexpressibly sweet smile, this lovely face - with its gaze of pure innocence like an angels -- my darling...." The first night the kiss was short but intense and exciting because you could feel it coming. The second night he picked her up by the waist and they kissed as he carried her backward. She had her hands pulled back, like a girl who is in over her head, doesn't really know what to do. The kiss was much longer and more invloved on the third night. It started out slow, with him bending down to kiss her with his hands holding her face. Then he picked her up by the waist and slowly carried her backward. She first has her hands back, then she puts one hand around the back of his head, quickly followed by the other hand. They were really going at it with lot's of heavy lip, face, and mouth movement. They were like this for ten seconds or so. I found the kiss, no matter what night, to be extraordinarily erotic, just as Greg said. Yowza. After they kiss, he runs off and Nina stands there alone, breathing hard. Then she begins whirling around in a circle with her arms held out, smiling and laughing. She stops and does a fancy bow, with an expression like, "Ta Da!! I got him." Curtain. ACT IV Two years time has passed. The last act starts out very bleak and somber and slow as molasses. The characters are dressed in black, the weather is cold and blustery, and everybody is unhappy and miserable. Sorin is sick, possibly dying. Kostya has gotten some writing published but still he hates life, feels he is having to compromise his art, knows Trigorin is a better writer. Hoffman is playing Kostya very sedate and robotic here and it really sets a slow, depressing pace to the last act. Kostya tells us the story of Nina -- that her life is a shambles, Trigorin left her, she had a baby that died, her family disowned her, she lives in poverty and goes hungry, that her acting career was not that successful. Later that same night Nina comes to see Kostya in secret. Natalie has made a remarkable physical transformation from the giddy, frisky young girl to a woman wizened up the hard way. Her carriage is completely different, she moves like she has a terrible aching, a soul pain -- unsteady, cautious, shaking, and all the while elegant and gracefully oozing from place to place. When she speaks her voice is lower, even more elegant sounding, like an old Hollywood actress. It was quite an effect, quite a transformation. She seemed to have aged twenty years. The scene is very dramatic and emotional, but if you are seated on the right side of the theater Natalie's back is turned most of the time. You can not see any of her great facial expressions while she delivers heartbreaking lines. On the second night Greg (my hero) got us some excellent seats at left center and with binocculars I was able to study Natalie's face during the whole scene. Natalie is crying real tears off and on, and projects a sense of great pain and suffering underneath a serene being. Sometimes she had a smile that was twisted into agony, in other parts she had a look of complete, blank confusion and delirium, shock at the realization that Trigorin would do that to her. But her tone slipped into nostalgia, too, and her smile became real when she asked Kostya to remember the good old, carefree days when they were young and in love. Natalie plays Nina as somebody who has been through the breakdown already and is slowly rebuilding her life. Her mind still wanders and she has to constantly convince herself that she is not the seagull. "I am the seagull. No wait. That's not what I meant." She struggles to remember that she survived to re-write the seagull story. Nina has spent two weeks at the lake, getting stronger, and finally she is able to cry, she sounds happy, relieved. "It makes me feel better to cry. I haven't cried for ages. I began to cry for the first time in two years - it was such a relief to cry, like a weight being lifted from my heart." Nina is not staying long; it seems she has just come to deliver a message to Kostya. When he begins to tell her how much he loved her, how much he still loves her, how horrible his life has been without her, and how he wants her to stay with him, Nina quickly puts on her coat to leave. She collapses suddenly, onto her hands and knees. In a voice of utter anguish Nina cries, "What do you mean, you kissed the ground I walked on? I don't deserve to live! ....... I'm so tired. If only I could rest." It's a very sudden, dramatic, and heartbreaking moment, and Natalie pulls it off. Very poignant. Then Nina begins a confused rambling about her life, how she was a stupid girl, how Trigorin was cruel to her, about the seagull as an idea for a short story but how it is the wrong story, not her story. Nina passes on what she has learned about survival to Kostya, perhaps in hopes that he will learn to survive, too. "What I've realized Kostya, whether we're writers or actors, what really counts is not dreaming of fame or glory... but stamina: knowing how to keep going despite everything, and having faith in yourself. I've got faith in myself now and that's helped the pain, and when I think to myself, 'You're on the stage!' then I'm not afraind of anything life can do to me." Kostya realizes she has found herself, that she will go on while he continues his miserable existence. Nina goes to leave but collapses again; this time Kostya catches her before she falls to the ground. "I'm so tired and hungry I can hardly stand." Nina refuses food but finally acknowledges that she knows Trigorin is with Arkadina in the other room. She still loves him, and begins to cry again. Her face is twisted in sadness and resignation. "I love him..... I love him more than ever. I love him passionately......... I love him to despair." She reminisces about the good old, carefree days, when they were young and delicate and recites some lines from Kostya play before she finally leaves. The scene is heartbreaking and sets the tone for the bleak ending, when Kostya takes his life. On the first night, the audience broke into applause for Natalie at the end of her scene. On each night I heard people crying, I had tears in my eyes. I found the scene disturbing due to the physical change in Nina, the sense of pain that Natalie projected. She switches back and forth from delirium and frailty to being focused and strong. Nina seems old and hardened, yet determined and wiser, ready to face the world again. Natalie's facial expressions are a big factor in communicating her emotions, and if you're not watching them, much of the effect is lost. I got the sense that Nina wanted to give Kostya a message for life, but it was too painful to be around him and the despair of his mother and her lover, Trigorin. She ignored that Kostya still loved her so that she could escape from the endless melancholy of that house by the lake. I felt Natalie intended to play the final scene without a big breakdown or excessive histronics, it was not called for. I think that she would have done it if she felt it was needed. Nina had the breakdown earlier, but since being at the lake she was getting stronger and more determined to go on. Nina was convinced she was not the seagull, that she was not destroyed, that endurance and having faith, was the most important thing to get through life. She had a new life as an actress that gave her joy and she would persevere. She passed her knowledge on to Kostya, but had to leave him in order to continue her life. Natalie had many wonderful moments throughout the play, and showed a wide range of emotions. She had the audience laughing and crying, and she was absolutely beautiful to gaze at. She poured her heart out and was very free in her acting, giving an intensity and vibrance that the older, more experienced actors did not have. Watching Natalie live and hearing that majestic voice was a wonder to behold. Cal |
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Thank you Greg and Cal for these fantastic reviews.
Greg, re Stoppard's version. I read that Stoppard doesn't read Russian, so we are getting a "third hand" version of Chekhov's play. That is not necessarily a problem but I think we need to bear it in mind. Great writing! You had me reaching for the dictionary ... degage, lickerousness, wow! Cal, Thanks for that detailed description and analysis of the play: you have a great eye for details. Mid-change I happened to notice that Natalie still has a band-aid (white medical tape) on her upper left arm as in the NYLON photos (Bluejay -- this is the tidbit I edited out earlier) Strange. I'd be interested to see what Bluejay thinks of that. Perhaps the scar hasn't healed too well. Yes, euripides trousers, if you are seated in Sec D and above, you get a clear and lengthy view down Natalie's blouse when she bends down to lift the dead bird. She is wearing a corset or bustier that lifts and supports, not-too flouncy of undergarments, a white dress with lace, and little high-heeled boots. Natalie is petite, with a narrow body and looks to be about 5'2" or so. And with that corset she looks to have just a 14 inch waist! She seemed not to be wearing a bustle yet she filled out the dress nicely in the back. Corset ... 14 inch waist ... high-heeled boots ... filled out in back ... I'm swooning. I should have been born 120 years ago. Then he picked her up by the waist and slowly carried her backward. She first has her hands back, then she puts one hand around the back of his head, quickly followed by the other hand. Ahhh... to enclose Natalie's waist in my hands. I reckon Kevin Kline's enjoying this gig. but if you are seated on the right side of the theater Natalie's back is turned most of the time My drama teacher told me NEVER turn your back to the audience. But I guess in the Delacorte it would be hard not be turning your back to someone. I think a problem might be the large size of the theatre. Don't you think this scene would be easier to play in a smaller space? Watching Natalie live and hearing that majestic voice was a wonder to behold. I hope Nat's people read these reviews and pass them on to her. Eloquent and insightful. "The only deadly sin I know is cynicism" - Henry Lewis Stimson
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Glad you enjoyed the read, guys. I paid special attention to the details just for you, euripides (and northernboy and choconat). We archaeologists are a bit anal when it comes to precise descriptions. I forgot to mention that Natalie's skin appeared milky white under the lights, and that her lovely eyes glimmered all night. Also, Kevin Kline is at least six feet tall, so his interaction with Natalie had an extra alluring physical dynamic.
My biggest complaint with the production was that the actors often had their backs turned to the audience at some point. The stage is a semi-circle, and it is impossible to have them always face the audience. Their monologues were often directed straight at the audience, and when two people were in a scene together, one often had his back turned or was facing sideways. Having Natalie's back turned made sense in the first part of the last scene, because she comes in from off stage. So she had to do a lot of acting using her back. But the rest of the time they had her sitting on a foot rest and giving her monologues facing sideways to Kostya, who was just standing there facing the audience. She only faced the right side of the audience for a short while. I think they could have done better with the blocking -- at least for the Natalie fans. Cal |
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Cal! It's not the first time you get this word from others, I know, but I still have to say it: BRAVO!! THx for your depth, detailed desciptions or analysis or reviews or comments whatever. You simply helped me to get the picture of the whole play. And simply how INCREDIBLE Natalie Portman is. She is Natalie Portman, the lil' girl from Leon, the promising actress who I really love. *sniff* It seemed that she had read those negative reviews. I think she's ok with it. Dunno why.... my instinct tells me that she's strong-willed. She will make some changs, so it's great to see whether she can do it or not. Greg, do u know the answer? I hope someday I'll be able to see it in some way. Sorry for bein' *blue*... Once a champ, forever a champ. No one will remember loser. Go and beat 'em all! Keep your faith alive.
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